URGENT!! Please copy this post and email it to everyone you know!
Free Speech Coalition Launched
Friday, 28 September 2007, 11:20 am
The Free Speech Coalition, a group dedicated to stopping the draconian Electoral Finance Bill has publicly launched itself today.
We agree with the Human Rights Commission and the New Zealand Law Society that this bill threatens the human rights of all New Zealanders and is so flawed that it should be stopped, not amended. A replacement Bill should be introduced after there has been public consultation and debate on the key issues - something totally absent from the current Bill.
A copy of the e-mail sent out to potential supporters is attached below. Most of the information on what we hope to achieve is in the e-mail and on our website at www.killthebill.org.nz
http://www.killthebill.org.nz/
If you send an email like this to a friend after January 1, 2008, you'll be breaking the law. Under the Government's Electoral Finance Bill currently before Parliament, you'll be fined up to $10,000, and even be risking a jail term if you do it deliberately.
Why?
Simply because the email dares to discuss how we run our society.
Yes, this Bill is that sinister.
That's why I'm asking for your help to Kill the Bill. If we don't kill it, then on New Year's Day your Government will strip you of your right to criticise the Government, other parties, MPs and policies you don't like.
The Bill has been described by several lawyers as a serious breach of the Bill of Rights. The Human Rights Commission has labeled the Bill as an infringement of human rights, that will discourage participation in the election process and suppress freedom of expression. In an almost unprecedented step, the New Zealand Law Society has called for the Bill to be stopped as it will curtail the legitimate expressions of opinions and represents a backward step in the integrity of democracy in New Zealand.
In an Orwellian twist, the Government claims the purpose of the Bill is to promote participation by the public in parliamentary democracy. The Human Rights Commission labels this a mockery of the actual likely effect of the Bill.
Despite this, the parties that voted for it - Labour, NZ First, Greens and United Future - won't give a commitment to stop it.
In fact, journalists report that the Government is determined to pass it.
The Bill will regulate political speech to an extent unheard of in New Zealand history:
* The definition of a political advertisement is expanded to be "any form of words or graphics, or both, that can reasonably be regarded as taking a position on a proposition with which one or more parties or one or more candidates is associated." Such ads will be highly regulated.
* You'll be banned from expressing your view on any political issue associated with a party or candidate unless you swear an oath via a statutory declaration that you will not spend more than $5,000 in the whole of election year in publishing your view.
* Unincorporated groups which have even a single member aged under 18, such as churches, will be banned from spending more than $5,000 a year - or $100 a week - on political advocacy.
* What sort of draconian activities does the Bill seek to protect us from? Handing out leaflets along the course of a protest march. Sending out a press release. Operating a website (other than a non-commercial blog). Displaying placards at a demonstration. Posting clips on YouTube. Putting up posters. That's right, all the things democratic societies call lawful expressions of free speech.
* Commercial advertising that conflicts with the views of a political party will not be allowed beyond a limit of $60,000 a year. How much evil propaganda will that buy you? About two full page newspaper ads in the NZ Herald.
* Political parties will be banned from running "issue" ads that oppose Government policies. For the whole of election year. They can only run ads that directly ask for votes.
Say your group wants to spend more than $5,000 a year publicising political issues. (Remember, that's anything to do with how we run our society.) In that case, the Government sees you as trouble. So you'll have to register with the Government. You'll also have to tell the Government who gave you your money. And in any case, you'll be banned from spending more than $60,000 of it in election year.
By now I hope you're feeling as outraged about this as I am.
If so, please help us Kill the Bill - while we still can.
A group of us have launched the Free Speech Coalition. We want it to be a focal point for all individuals and organizations opposed to the Electoral Finance Bill.
We plan to run an ad campaign. Our ads will educate New Zealanders about this Government's unprecedented assault on our cherished freedom of speech.
We've got a creative team waiting to get cracking. But we need your support. Specifically, your money.
Please pass this e-mail on to any of your friends and colleagues who you think will want to know about this Bill and do something about it.
You can donate instantly online at www.killthebill.org.nz . You can also donate via Internet Banking (BNZ 02-0500-0908920-00) or by sending a cheque to the Free Speech Coalition, PO Box 12270, Thorndon, Wellington.
With your support we can make a difference. It would be tragic to have the Bill pass into law - and your right to free speech pass into history - just because everyone assumed that someone else would fight it.
Remember: if the bill is passed, even a harmless e-mail like this one will soon be illegal. That's reason enough to Kill the Bill.
Sunday, September 30, 2007
Friday, September 28, 2007
Balancing Act
Christian radio station forced to give time to other faiths
Ottawa's CHRI rails against CRTC's 'ridiculous' balance policy
Jennifer Green
The Ottawa Citizen
Saturday, July 28, 2007
When is a Christian radio station not a Christian radio station? For the hour or so a day that it must air the views of other faiths to satisfy the CRTC's "balance" policy.
"It's ridiculous," says Bob Du Broy, vice-president of Ottawa's CHRI Christian music station. "It's like asking a rock station to play an hour of classical music." CHRI's announcers also find themselves in the bizarre situation of working for a Christian station without being able to talk much about Christianity for fear of triggering the "balance" issue.
Because CHRI 99.1 FM plays mostly music, its requirements for offsetting Christian proselytizing have been minimal at just over 30 minutes a week.
But now Mr. Du Broy wants to start a new Christian station, WORD FM, aimed at the growing radio audience older than 45, many of whom want Christian programming, but not the racket of rock music.
It would offer more than two-thirds spoken-word broadcasting with programs such as Billy Graham's Hour of Decision and James Dobson's Focus Weekend.
Religious music needn't be offset with other faiths, but the broadcast regulator, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, does require that spoken-word programming offer differing views. However, it is up to the applicant to propose just how this would be done.
Denis Carmel, the CRTC's director of public relations, said "It's unlikely that a single-faith station could be balanced (without some programming on other faiths)." Is it possible to get a licence without outside faith programming? "I'm not going to respond to that." Mr. Du Broy figures the CRTC will want at least one hour and 11 minutes a day devoted to other faiths. To get that figure, he multiplied 67 per cent (the amount of talking on air) by 7.35 per cent (number of non-Christians in the Ottawa area) to come up with 4.9 per cent of the 24-hour broadcast day, or 71 minutes.
The problem is, Christian radio listeners don't always care for the outside programming.
Many have enjoyed CHRI's Reflections on the Torah but Their Days, five-minute segments on Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism, have been less of a hit.
Mr. Du Broy says in his submission to the CRTC, "... on a regular basis we receive complaints from core listeners that a non-Christian message does not belong on a Christian radio station. Many listeners have told us that it is too good and may seduce young people into following other religions." Counterbalancing religious points of view may sound like taking political correctness to extremes, but it comes out of a tumultuous history of religious broadcasting, stretching back the 1920s, when fiery radio preachers thought nothing of insulting other faiths over the airwaves.
A royal commission banned religious broadcasting, formed the forerunner of the CBC, and established strong federal control over the airwaves until the 1980s when the broadcast universe exploded with new channels and radio frequencies.
In 1993, the CRTC revisited its religious broadcasting policy, with long, heartfelt discussion of the requirements of balance. Ultimately, it decided to ease some requirements, particularly for specialty cable channels, but some commissioners dissented, cautioning: "We are disturbed by the extent of social, cultural, and racial intolerance which is often rooted in religious intolerance. One need only look to Bosnia, the Middle East, India, Northern Ireland, South Africa, and other world 'trouble spots' to observe this phenomenon in its most violent form. Such cultural and racial intolerance is less dramatic and violent, but no less real, in Canada." The United States had a similar "fairness" doctrine which was repealed in 1987. However, as conservative radio programs dominate the airwaves, there has been some talk recently of bringing it back, much to the alarm of some Christians, appalled at the thought of having to air the views of gay rights activists or secularists.
Applications to the CRTC for the 99.7 frequency that Mr. Du Broy hopes to land close Aug. 21.
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Ottawa's CHRI rails against CRTC's 'ridiculous' balance policy
Jennifer Green
The Ottawa Citizen
Saturday, July 28, 2007
When is a Christian radio station not a Christian radio station? For the hour or so a day that it must air the views of other faiths to satisfy the CRTC's "balance" policy.
"It's ridiculous," says Bob Du Broy, vice-president of Ottawa's CHRI Christian music station. "It's like asking a rock station to play an hour of classical music." CHRI's announcers also find themselves in the bizarre situation of working for a Christian station without being able to talk much about Christianity for fear of triggering the "balance" issue.
Because CHRI 99.1 FM plays mostly music, its requirements for offsetting Christian proselytizing have been minimal at just over 30 minutes a week.
But now Mr. Du Broy wants to start a new Christian station, WORD FM, aimed at the growing radio audience older than 45, many of whom want Christian programming, but not the racket of rock music.
It would offer more than two-thirds spoken-word broadcasting with programs such as Billy Graham's Hour of Decision and James Dobson's Focus Weekend.
Religious music needn't be offset with other faiths, but the broadcast regulator, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, does require that spoken-word programming offer differing views. However, it is up to the applicant to propose just how this would be done.
Denis Carmel, the CRTC's director of public relations, said "It's unlikely that a single-faith station could be balanced (without some programming on other faiths)." Is it possible to get a licence without outside faith programming? "I'm not going to respond to that." Mr. Du Broy figures the CRTC will want at least one hour and 11 minutes a day devoted to other faiths. To get that figure, he multiplied 67 per cent (the amount of talking on air) by 7.35 per cent (number of non-Christians in the Ottawa area) to come up with 4.9 per cent of the 24-hour broadcast day, or 71 minutes.
The problem is, Christian radio listeners don't always care for the outside programming.
Many have enjoyed CHRI's Reflections on the Torah but Their Days, five-minute segments on Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism, have been less of a hit.
Mr. Du Broy says in his submission to the CRTC, "... on a regular basis we receive complaints from core listeners that a non-Christian message does not belong on a Christian radio station. Many listeners have told us that it is too good and may seduce young people into following other religions." Counterbalancing religious points of view may sound like taking political correctness to extremes, but it comes out of a tumultuous history of religious broadcasting, stretching back the 1920s, when fiery radio preachers thought nothing of insulting other faiths over the airwaves.
A royal commission banned religious broadcasting, formed the forerunner of the CBC, and established strong federal control over the airwaves until the 1980s when the broadcast universe exploded with new channels and radio frequencies.
In 1993, the CRTC revisited its religious broadcasting policy, with long, heartfelt discussion of the requirements of balance. Ultimately, it decided to ease some requirements, particularly for specialty cable channels, but some commissioners dissented, cautioning: "We are disturbed by the extent of social, cultural, and racial intolerance which is often rooted in religious intolerance. One need only look to Bosnia, the Middle East, India, Northern Ireland, South Africa, and other world 'trouble spots' to observe this phenomenon in its most violent form. Such cultural and racial intolerance is less dramatic and violent, but no less real, in Canada." The United States had a similar "fairness" doctrine which was repealed in 1987. However, as conservative radio programs dominate the airwaves, there has been some talk recently of bringing it back, much to the alarm of some Christians, appalled at the thought of having to air the views of gay rights activists or secularists.
Applications to the CRTC for the 99.7 frequency that Mr. Du Broy hopes to land close Aug. 21.
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Saturday, September 22, 2007
Not a Laodicean Believer
Coach Dave Daubenmire
September 20, 2007
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Is anyone besides me tired of being so nice?
That is what they are trying to convince us to be you know….nice.
Funny, isn’t it? You can search the Bible through and through and you will be hard-pressed to find that adjective in reference to Christianity. Somewhere along the line we have become convinced that the greatest thing they can ever say about you as a Christian is that you are a “nice” man.
Nice may fit a Bible study, or a vacation with your family, but it is not very useful in war. That is one of the difficult things I am having trouble teaching our Christian football players. Nice has no place on the football field. Character is important, courage is demanded, tenacity fits, but being nice…”pleasing; agreeable; delightful” is a sure-fire way to get the snot knocked out of you. (Is it okay to say snot? Probably doesn’t sound very “nice” to some folks.)
Nice also has no place in the cultural war. “All’s fair in love and war” the old saying goes. Well, for those of you who want to “love” your enemies and those who want to “war” against them; it is time to take off the gloves.
The media has been after me a bit lately. They hate the fact that I am not one of those “nice” Christians that the Devil is trying to convince us we must be. Have you ever noticed that? The Devil’s kids are the one always calling the names and explaining to us how a Christian should act. Most Christians can’t wait to perform penance for not meeting the Devil’s standards of Christian-behavior.
Hey, it is a free country. They have a right to voice their opinion. But why is it that so much of the church-world takes its cue from what they hear from the media? Does anyone want to debate who is in control of what we read and hear? The Scriptures call Satan the prince of the power of the air. TV and radio waves travel in the air.
Here’s what I don’t get. If it is really a war for the souls of men, and I believe that it is, why are we so focused on being “nice” to the Devil and his evil aides? He is the father, you know, of the ones who are lost. Why do we let the Devil’s minions tell us how a Christian should behave?
It’s time we stopped apologizing to the Devil.
A few months ago I wrote about going to the gay pride parade in Columbus. We were shocked to see so many churches marching in the parade in support of sodomy and those who practice it. I was struck by how deceived those churches were. See, they were convinced that if they would just be “nice” to those who were perishing in that lifestyle, then we would all be able to enjoy the love of Jesus together. In fact, the homosexual crowd (the Devil’s “kids”) applauded the ‘tolerant” churches as they marched. They spit at those of us who carried the Truth of God’s love to them. Sometimes God’s love hurts.
Is it just me or was there something wrong with that picture? The Devil’s “kids” applauding the church….sort of like a Buckeye fan rooting for Michigan. But that isn’t what really amazes me. What honks my horn is the number of churches who are mad at me because we haven’t been nice to the Devil. We shouldn’t do that, I guess -- oppose the Devil and his followers. Just doesn’t seem very Christ-like….er…nice. “Be nice, Coach. Please be nice. You are making Christians look bad.”
Yep. The Devil says we’re mean and that Christians shouldn’t be mean. Most Christians follow his advice. Gotta be nice, you know.
Well, a few of my pastor friends (yes I still have a few friends who are pastors) decided that we have been pointing our guns at the wrong crowd. Instead of spending their time calling the lost to account they made the decision to call “the church” to account. How did they do it? Well, they went to a couple of churches who had marched in the sodomite-parade. It seems one lesbian-pastor did not appreciate her fellow brethren-of-the-cloth calling her to account for preaching a different gospel. It was just too….well….mean.
So how did she respond? She called her daddy’s boys in the media and told them how un-nice these mean Christians had been to her. Next thing you know, three-different publications had done stories on how these “hateful” Christians had “crashed” the services of these nice, loving, defenseless, homosexual-Christians.
You see, the media wants you to know that Bible-believing Christians are hateful but homosexual-Christians are loving. That is the Devil’s mantra. Who do you think the cowardly-church believes? The letters to the editor in the following days was filled with letters from other “nice” Christians who wanted to make sure that the Devil knew that they were sorry that some of God’s children played mean. That’s not very Christ-like, you know. Christians must play by the rules….even if the Devil makes them.
But God is gracious. He told us it was a war. He told us they would hate us. He told us He would never leave us or forsake us. Every attack of the enemy is a chance to stand-up for Jesus. Stop sucking on your thumb when the attack comes. The Devil doesn’t play nice. He’s counting on us to do that.
For two weeks I endured the assault of the “nicer-than-Coach” Christians and their apologies to the Devil in the local papers. They just couldn’t wait to apologize to the Devil for my opposition to his kids’ behavior. By the way, did I point out that I wasn’t even involved in going to the churches? It didn’t matter. The Devil just wanted to make sure that everyone knew Christians like me were mean, and that anyone else who decided to speak up for Jesus could expect the same public smearing.
I hate to sound so prideful, but the attack just egged me on. I am not ignorant of his devices. I know when we have hit a nerve. I refuse to apologize to the Devil.
So, I wrote a letter-to-the-editor and to my amazement, they printed it. The Columbus Dispatch, the largest home-newspaper in Ohio, printed my letter at the top of the opinion page. I refused to do what so many do when attacked by the media. I wasn’t going to grovel for their approval, slobbering how sorry I was, how I had miss-spoken, and how I would soon be entering diversity training to learn to be nicer. The Lord gave me an opportunity to share the Gospel with those who are perishing as well as those who apologize to those who are perishing. Here is what the Lord allowed me to say.
I write not to defend myself, but rather to clarify the continued drive-by reporting of those at the Columbus Dispatch.
The Aug. 17 Dispatch article "Anti-gay activists crash worship services" was filled with inaccuracies and untruths. To set the record straight: Two ministers of the Gospel, with others from their congregation, visited two gay-affirming churches with the message that homosexuality and Christianity are incompatible. It is my understanding, as I was not there, that after the service they met privately with the pastor at each church to call the pastor to account for teaching doctrine that is not supported by Scripture. For The Dispatch to use the term "crashed" is journalistic fraud designed to incite a negative response by Dispatch readers.
I stand in support of Christian Ministers holding others who claim to be Christian Ministers accountable to the Word of God. It is the way the church body should operate. Telling a gay-man or gay-woman that God looks the other way as He winks at their particular sin is not the loving response a homosexual should hear from any minister of the Gospel. The two pastors who spoke truth to their gay-affirming fellow ministers did exactly what the Scriptures require they do according to Mathew 18:15-17:
*
Go and show him his fault, just between the two of you.
*
If he will not listen, take one or two others along.
*
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church.
*
If he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
The condition of American-Christianity would be much better if more ministers of the Gospel held those in Scriptural error more accountable. I also believe it the duty of the scribes of our times to be more respectful of the truth- regardless of their personal agendas.
Thank God for the brave men who would speak the truth face-to-face rather than publicly defame the integrity of another. I support the brave pastors who stood for the vast majority of Christendom who agree with their theology.
I thank The Dispatch for the unwarranted coverage of the event and their obvious attempt to defame two brave Christian pastors. I just wanted to be sure that I did not receive credit for something someone else had done.
I know, I know. I’m not very nice.
Let’s stop apologizing to the Devil!
Order the CDs here.
Do you think like a Christian or a humanist? Did the Founders really separate Church and State? Is Judicial tyranny ruining America? Check out these great teachings by the Coach.
© 2007 Dave Daubenmire - All Rights Reserved
http://www.newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave85.htm
September 20, 2007
NewsWithViews.com
Is anyone besides me tired of being so nice?
That is what they are trying to convince us to be you know….nice.
Funny, isn’t it? You can search the Bible through and through and you will be hard-pressed to find that adjective in reference to Christianity. Somewhere along the line we have become convinced that the greatest thing they can ever say about you as a Christian is that you are a “nice” man.
Nice may fit a Bible study, or a vacation with your family, but it is not very useful in war. That is one of the difficult things I am having trouble teaching our Christian football players. Nice has no place on the football field. Character is important, courage is demanded, tenacity fits, but being nice…”pleasing; agreeable; delightful” is a sure-fire way to get the snot knocked out of you. (Is it okay to say snot? Probably doesn’t sound very “nice” to some folks.)
Nice also has no place in the cultural war. “All’s fair in love and war” the old saying goes. Well, for those of you who want to “love” your enemies and those who want to “war” against them; it is time to take off the gloves.
The media has been after me a bit lately. They hate the fact that I am not one of those “nice” Christians that the Devil is trying to convince us we must be. Have you ever noticed that? The Devil’s kids are the one always calling the names and explaining to us how a Christian should act. Most Christians can’t wait to perform penance for not meeting the Devil’s standards of Christian-behavior.
Hey, it is a free country. They have a right to voice their opinion. But why is it that so much of the church-world takes its cue from what they hear from the media? Does anyone want to debate who is in control of what we read and hear? The Scriptures call Satan the prince of the power of the air. TV and radio waves travel in the air.
Here’s what I don’t get. If it is really a war for the souls of men, and I believe that it is, why are we so focused on being “nice” to the Devil and his evil aides? He is the father, you know, of the ones who are lost. Why do we let the Devil’s minions tell us how a Christian should behave?
It’s time we stopped apologizing to the Devil.
A few months ago I wrote about going to the gay pride parade in Columbus. We were shocked to see so many churches marching in the parade in support of sodomy and those who practice it. I was struck by how deceived those churches were. See, they were convinced that if they would just be “nice” to those who were perishing in that lifestyle, then we would all be able to enjoy the love of Jesus together. In fact, the homosexual crowd (the Devil’s “kids”) applauded the ‘tolerant” churches as they marched. They spit at those of us who carried the Truth of God’s love to them. Sometimes God’s love hurts.
Is it just me or was there something wrong with that picture? The Devil’s “kids” applauding the church….sort of like a Buckeye fan rooting for Michigan. But that isn’t what really amazes me. What honks my horn is the number of churches who are mad at me because we haven’t been nice to the Devil. We shouldn’t do that, I guess -- oppose the Devil and his followers. Just doesn’t seem very Christ-like….er…nice. “Be nice, Coach. Please be nice. You are making Christians look bad.”
Yep. The Devil says we’re mean and that Christians shouldn’t be mean. Most Christians follow his advice. Gotta be nice, you know.
Well, a few of my pastor friends (yes I still have a few friends who are pastors) decided that we have been pointing our guns at the wrong crowd. Instead of spending their time calling the lost to account they made the decision to call “the church” to account. How did they do it? Well, they went to a couple of churches who had marched in the sodomite-parade. It seems one lesbian-pastor did not appreciate her fellow brethren-of-the-cloth calling her to account for preaching a different gospel. It was just too….well….mean.
So how did she respond? She called her daddy’s boys in the media and told them how un-nice these mean Christians had been to her. Next thing you know, three-different publications had done stories on how these “hateful” Christians had “crashed” the services of these nice, loving, defenseless, homosexual-Christians.
You see, the media wants you to know that Bible-believing Christians are hateful but homosexual-Christians are loving. That is the Devil’s mantra. Who do you think the cowardly-church believes? The letters to the editor in the following days was filled with letters from other “nice” Christians who wanted to make sure that the Devil knew that they were sorry that some of God’s children played mean. That’s not very Christ-like, you know. Christians must play by the rules….even if the Devil makes them.
But God is gracious. He told us it was a war. He told us they would hate us. He told us He would never leave us or forsake us. Every attack of the enemy is a chance to stand-up for Jesus. Stop sucking on your thumb when the attack comes. The Devil doesn’t play nice. He’s counting on us to do that.
For two weeks I endured the assault of the “nicer-than-Coach” Christians and their apologies to the Devil in the local papers. They just couldn’t wait to apologize to the Devil for my opposition to his kids’ behavior. By the way, did I point out that I wasn’t even involved in going to the churches? It didn’t matter. The Devil just wanted to make sure that everyone knew Christians like me were mean, and that anyone else who decided to speak up for Jesus could expect the same public smearing.
I hate to sound so prideful, but the attack just egged me on. I am not ignorant of his devices. I know when we have hit a nerve. I refuse to apologize to the Devil.
So, I wrote a letter-to-the-editor and to my amazement, they printed it. The Columbus Dispatch, the largest home-newspaper in Ohio, printed my letter at the top of the opinion page. I refused to do what so many do when attacked by the media. I wasn’t going to grovel for their approval, slobbering how sorry I was, how I had miss-spoken, and how I would soon be entering diversity training to learn to be nicer. The Lord gave me an opportunity to share the Gospel with those who are perishing as well as those who apologize to those who are perishing. Here is what the Lord allowed me to say.
I write not to defend myself, but rather to clarify the continued drive-by reporting of those at the Columbus Dispatch.
The Aug. 17 Dispatch article "Anti-gay activists crash worship services" was filled with inaccuracies and untruths. To set the record straight: Two ministers of the Gospel, with others from their congregation, visited two gay-affirming churches with the message that homosexuality and Christianity are incompatible. It is my understanding, as I was not there, that after the service they met privately with the pastor at each church to call the pastor to account for teaching doctrine that is not supported by Scripture. For The Dispatch to use the term "crashed" is journalistic fraud designed to incite a negative response by Dispatch readers.
I stand in support of Christian Ministers holding others who claim to be Christian Ministers accountable to the Word of God. It is the way the church body should operate. Telling a gay-man or gay-woman that God looks the other way as He winks at their particular sin is not the loving response a homosexual should hear from any minister of the Gospel. The two pastors who spoke truth to their gay-affirming fellow ministers did exactly what the Scriptures require they do according to Mathew 18:15-17:
*
Go and show him his fault, just between the two of you.
*
If he will not listen, take one or two others along.
*
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church.
*
If he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
The condition of American-Christianity would be much better if more ministers of the Gospel held those in Scriptural error more accountable. I also believe it the duty of the scribes of our times to be more respectful of the truth- regardless of their personal agendas.
Thank God for the brave men who would speak the truth face-to-face rather than publicly defame the integrity of another. I support the brave pastors who stood for the vast majority of Christendom who agree with their theology.
I thank The Dispatch for the unwarranted coverage of the event and their obvious attempt to defame two brave Christian pastors. I just wanted to be sure that I did not receive credit for something someone else had done.
I know, I know. I’m not very nice.
Let’s stop apologizing to the Devil!
Order the CDs here.
Do you think like a Christian or a humanist? Did the Founders really separate Church and State? Is Judicial tyranny ruining America? Check out these great teachings by the Coach.
© 2007 Dave Daubenmire - All Rights Reserved
http://www.newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave85.htm
Monday, September 17, 2007
The Lord Will Do It
FAITH COMES TO THE PILBARA
A reporter for the Western Australian wrote this account of the revival amongst the Aboriginal People
A religious revival among Aboriginal people in the remote Northwest town of Nullagine - once labelled the arrest capital of Australia has drastically reduced the number of arrests and jailings. Police in Nulllagine, 184 km north of Newman (Western Australia), claim drunken domestic scenes which once dogged the community have virtially disappeared and the residents seem happier and healthier. Three Christian Aboriginal leaders were the key to revival, Empowered with a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit, they began regular meetings and prayer events every day. The results were powerful. Some gatherings went on for eight hours as people shared in song, testimony, prayer and Bible reading. The effect was felt in the whole community.
The only sufferer is the local pub, the Conglomerate Hotel, which once kept six staff busy. The lessee went into receivership after the town's lOO-150 Aboriginal people turned to Christianity. Since then, the Aboriginal community has reduced the number of arrests to just a handful of men and there have been no jailings. They gave up alcohol and labelled the hotel, 'the Devil's place'.
Instead of going to the bar each night to drink, they sit happily in circles under the stars, pray and sing gospel songs at the Yarrangkaji community on the outskirts of town. They are eager to share their new-found love of God and talk about the positive changes they have made to their lives.
Gary Marshall, who leased the hotel and adjoining shop for 22 years, said the arrival of religion spelt disaster for his business, but he did not hold it against the Aboriginal people. "I couldn't sit here and say it was a bad thing," he said. "If they are better off, then it's a wonderful thing."
Senior Constable, Mal Kay, the officer in charge at Nuiligane, said the drop in crime could be explained in part by the fact that the population dropped every time big groups from the community left town to attend religious meetings around Pilbara and Northam. Most arrests in the past have been assaults and woundings stemming from alcohol.
Mother-of-two, Lisa Daibin used to be a weekly visitor to the Nullagine police lockup for assault, anti-social behaviour or just to sober up. The 26 year-old would spend her pension on alcohol, get jealous over her man and find herself in punch-ups with women who were her friends when she was sober. That was before she found Christianity and gave up her drinking last November. "We pray and sing every morning and every night," she said. 'We have church meetings every Wednesday and Saturday."
Miss Dalbin has worked off her fines through community work, picking up rubbish and working in a kitchen. Her favourite drink used to be port and she freely admits it made her act mad. She does not miss it. She is happier, has money in her pocket to go shopping and takes better care of her sons, aged five and eight. now she is sober. She is even studying to get her driver's licence, a privilege which seemed out of reach to her a few months ago. The only time she sees the police is when they stop her to say hello in the street.
Her cousin, Philip Bennell, 39, who spent much of his youth behind bars because of alcohol related strife, has also been sober for about four months. "God is my master now, not grog," he says. "Alcohol is a killer for anybody, but especially for Aboriginal people. I was one of the worst blokes and have spent years of my life in and out of prison. I had two feet in the grave and what I was doing was adding a final nail in the coffin," he adds. "When I found the Lord I gave it all away. I didn't want to die a young bloke."
Philip says that the footpath outside the Conglomerate Hotel has been a site of many arguments and brawls, but now the community hold prayer meetings across the road. If they ventured into the pub, it was only to get a cool drink. "There used to be a lot of tough drinkers at the reserve," he says. "They gave it away because they found a bit of peace and a better way of life"
Aboriginal leaders empowered by the Holy Spirit are leading the revival. These leaders would like to see the revival reaching the wider Kartiya (non-Aboriginal) society. But for these shy desert people to reach out in these days of the struggle for reconciliation will only be by the hand of God.
Source: The Western Australian Renewal Journal #11: Discipleship. www.pastornet.net/au.renewal
A reporter for the Western Australian wrote this account of the revival amongst the Aboriginal People
A religious revival among Aboriginal people in the remote Northwest town of Nullagine - once labelled the arrest capital of Australia has drastically reduced the number of arrests and jailings. Police in Nulllagine, 184 km north of Newman (Western Australia), claim drunken domestic scenes which once dogged the community have virtially disappeared and the residents seem happier and healthier. Three Christian Aboriginal leaders were the key to revival, Empowered with a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit, they began regular meetings and prayer events every day. The results were powerful. Some gatherings went on for eight hours as people shared in song, testimony, prayer and Bible reading. The effect was felt in the whole community.
The only sufferer is the local pub, the Conglomerate Hotel, which once kept six staff busy. The lessee went into receivership after the town's lOO-150 Aboriginal people turned to Christianity. Since then, the Aboriginal community has reduced the number of arrests to just a handful of men and there have been no jailings. They gave up alcohol and labelled the hotel, 'the Devil's place'.
Instead of going to the bar each night to drink, they sit happily in circles under the stars, pray and sing gospel songs at the Yarrangkaji community on the outskirts of town. They are eager to share their new-found love of God and talk about the positive changes they have made to their lives.
Gary Marshall, who leased the hotel and adjoining shop for 22 years, said the arrival of religion spelt disaster for his business, but he did not hold it against the Aboriginal people. "I couldn't sit here and say it was a bad thing," he said. "If they are better off, then it's a wonderful thing."
Senior Constable, Mal Kay, the officer in charge at Nuiligane, said the drop in crime could be explained in part by the fact that the population dropped every time big groups from the community left town to attend religious meetings around Pilbara and Northam. Most arrests in the past have been assaults and woundings stemming from alcohol.
Mother-of-two, Lisa Daibin used to be a weekly visitor to the Nullagine police lockup for assault, anti-social behaviour or just to sober up. The 26 year-old would spend her pension on alcohol, get jealous over her man and find herself in punch-ups with women who were her friends when she was sober. That was before she found Christianity and gave up her drinking last November. "We pray and sing every morning and every night," she said. 'We have church meetings every Wednesday and Saturday."
Miss Dalbin has worked off her fines through community work, picking up rubbish and working in a kitchen. Her favourite drink used to be port and she freely admits it made her act mad. She does not miss it. She is happier, has money in her pocket to go shopping and takes better care of her sons, aged five and eight. now she is sober. She is even studying to get her driver's licence, a privilege which seemed out of reach to her a few months ago. The only time she sees the police is when they stop her to say hello in the street.
Her cousin, Philip Bennell, 39, who spent much of his youth behind bars because of alcohol related strife, has also been sober for about four months. "God is my master now, not grog," he says. "Alcohol is a killer for anybody, but especially for Aboriginal people. I was one of the worst blokes and have spent years of my life in and out of prison. I had two feet in the grave and what I was doing was adding a final nail in the coffin," he adds. "When I found the Lord I gave it all away. I didn't want to die a young bloke."
Philip says that the footpath outside the Conglomerate Hotel has been a site of many arguments and brawls, but now the community hold prayer meetings across the road. If they ventured into the pub, it was only to get a cool drink. "There used to be a lot of tough drinkers at the reserve," he says. "They gave it away because they found a bit of peace and a better way of life"
Aboriginal leaders empowered by the Holy Spirit are leading the revival. These leaders would like to see the revival reaching the wider Kartiya (non-Aboriginal) society. But for these shy desert people to reach out in these days of the struggle for reconciliation will only be by the hand of God.
Source: The Western Australian Renewal Journal #11: Discipleship. www.pastornet.net/au.renewal
Friday, September 14, 2007
Cash Cows
On the news today it is reported that dairy company giant Fonterra, are to raise quite considerably, the price of butter and just when I had decided to no longer buy yoghurt because of the over-inflated prices in the shops. I have been used to buying two 6-packs of yoghurt and now can only buy one 6-pack for the same price. So, in this butter/yoghurt-less home I am hoping that someone will devise a simple way for me to apply olive oil instead to my morning toast and lunchtime sandwiches. A brush perhaps but one that doesn't require hot water rinsing after every use maybe? A life without butter might pose a problem when it comes to baking day but I'm convinced, it's the banana cakes loaded with butter causing my hanging midriff in these latter years of my life. It's maybe the right time to ditch the cake baking traditions especially since the food police have made us feel guilty, have taken away the pleasure even, to indulge in foods with sugar or butter anyway. Still, there's the time-honoured milk bottle, I am already taking sideways glances at it. If I can do without that bottle in the fridge too, I stand to recoup heaps of cash, much like someone does when they ply hundreds into Lotto for years without a win and then when they finally stop buying them they find they are winning at the bank balance. Ah ye, it's a great day when you stop being a slave to things that are not profitable to you :)
Friday, September 07, 2007
Nothing much Admiral, Philips k9...
makes you think...
A few years after I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small Texas town.
From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family.
The stranger was quickly accepted and was around from then on.
As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind, he had a special niche.
My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me good from evil, and Dad taught me to obey.
But the stranger...he was our storyteller.
He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures, mysteries and comedies.
If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he always knew the answers about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future!
He took my family to the first major league ball game.
He made me laugh, and he made me cry.
The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn't seem to mind.
Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to the kitchen for peace and quiet.
(I wonder now if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)
Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them.
Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home... Not from us, our
friends or any visitors.
Our longtime visitor, however, got away with four-letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush.
My Dad didn't permit the liberal use of alcohol.
But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis.
He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished.
He talked freely (much too freely!) about sex.
His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.
I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger.
Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked... And NEVER asked to leave.
More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you could walk into my parents' den today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.
His name?...
. . .
We just call him, "TV."
*
*
*
* *Note: This should be required reading for every household!**
He has a wife now....
We call her "Computer."
Their children are called, MP3, iPod, X-box, Play Station and Gameboy.
-Author unknown
A few years after I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small Texas town.
From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family.
The stranger was quickly accepted and was around from then on.
As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind, he had a special niche.
My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me good from evil, and Dad taught me to obey.
But the stranger...he was our storyteller.
He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures, mysteries and comedies.
If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he always knew the answers about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future!
He took my family to the first major league ball game.
He made me laugh, and he made me cry.
The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn't seem to mind.
Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to the kitchen for peace and quiet.
(I wonder now if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)
Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them.
Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home... Not from us, our
friends or any visitors.
Our longtime visitor, however, got away with four-letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush.
My Dad didn't permit the liberal use of alcohol.
But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis.
He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished.
He talked freely (much too freely!) about sex.
His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.
I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger.
Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked... And NEVER asked to leave.
More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you could walk into my parents' den today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.
His name?...
. . .
We just call him, "TV."
*
*
*
* *Note: This should be required reading for every household!**
He has a wife now....
We call her "Computer."
Their children are called, MP3, iPod, X-box, Play Station and Gameboy.
-Author unknown
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